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Geoff Brown

Nice post Garr
This is an angle looking at the simple, complicated and complex I hadn't thought about before.

Have to you seen Dave Snowden's work on complexity and the Cynefin Framework? It is well worth a look and Shawn Callahan over at Anecdote has done a simple video looking at the Cynefin framework here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mqNcs8mp74

Emmanuel

What a wonderful post and thank you for opening my eyes to the beauty of of the wagasa.

I look at complicated as being able to be explain by looking at the parts (ie a watch mechanism is complicated - it can be explained by being taken apart). Complexity on the other hand cannot be explained that way. They have an inherent coherence as a whole which disappears when looking at the part in isolation. Jazz is a great example of that. It is complex but its coherence gives it simplicity.

I like to think of simplicity as being simplification + coherence. Simplification being the removal of the superfluous as you mention in your post and coherence being the ability to create one thing out of many (for example we tend to think of our cars as one object rather than many parts working in harmony what we call punctualisation and depunctualisation in networks).

Thank you again for your continued inspiration.

Ricardo

I visit this site frequently, Garr, and you have transformed my life in many ways both simple and complicated to explain. Ironically.

This post was a lot more spiritual than your average post. Your respect and deep love of Japan, Japanese culture, and the Japanese people is obvious, but posts like this one make it clear how intimate and beautiful that relationship is. Thank you for sharing that with your faithful (and casual!) readers.

Your story about the art of wagasa makes me think about refinement more than anything. The dedication to daily improvement that is required to create such simplicity from something a human being could make so utterly complicated is awe-inspiring. With machines creating so much of the world around us, keeping touch with how the human soul creates through the human hand is so vital. Thank you for taking the time to drive that lesson home.

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Fascinating! I lived in Japan many years and often teach about Japanese communication style. I very much enjoyed learning something new in addition to learning something I knew in a refreshing new way.

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Japan is known for the technology they have a creative mind they have an art and skill they intract the person easily by the help of wood they make diffrent things also really i appreciate Japenese arts & culture.
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Valentin Alexeev

I think it was recently on Harvard Business Blog - there is simplicity, there is complexity and there is clarity.

Jill Cadarette

There is a freshwater beach near us, the longest in the world, called Wasaga. I wonder if your wasaga was the inspiration for it's name. There are definately parallels. Here's a photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/billyd_7/508366955/

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Regarding Wasaga beach, it is named after the Nottawasage River. Nottawasage is an Algonquin Indian name. "Nottawa" means "Iriquois" and "saga" means "mouth of the river." The mouth of the Nottawasaga River was apparently a conflict zone between the Algonquin and Iriquois Indians. It was part of Iriquois territory occuppied by the Algonquin. The Algonquin would send word of in-coming Iriquois raiding parties by informing their people that "Nottawasaga"..."Iriquois at the mouth of the river."

Austin

Thanks Garr, it's posts like these that keep me coming back for more. In this day, with so many things fighting for my attention online, Presentation Zen provides value and meaning that most do not. I appreciate your insights and ideas, and I love how you have helped me think different about the world and my role in it.

Thank you.

Carlos

How beautiful and inspirational! I'm really moved, make me remember about Japan so much, you can find this kind of features almost everywhere in the Japanese tradition.


Dan Ward

Great stuff - I too find it very useful to make a distinction between complex and complicated... and a similar distinction between simple and simplistic.

In my work as a military technologist, a certain degree of complexity may be inevitable, and may co-exist with simplicity - I think your comment about patterns that are simultaneously simple and complex nails it.

Simplicity is most desirable, while complicatedness and simplisticness are both undesirable, as they limit the system's usability and function.

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stor perde:nice article. helped me a lot Thanks for sharing.

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great title for a post.. the power of three at work! :)

I too agree that simplicity should work with complexity. I do not like simplicity when it lacks and I also would not do with complexity if its too much. the perfect balance between the two works fine for me. great post! keep it up. :)

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What a post!!
Wonderful post and thank you. I appreciate your insights and ideas, and I love how you have helped me think different about the world and my role in it.

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I too find it very useful to make a distinction between complex and complicated and a similar distinction between simple and simplistic. Thanks for the article it was good!

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Simplification being the removal of the superfluous as you mention in your post and coherence being the ability to create one thing out of many.

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Complexity on the other hand cannot be explained that way. They have an inherent coherence as a whole which disappears when looking at the part in isolation. Jazz is a great example of that. It is complex but its coherence gives it simplicity.

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"Simplexity":
John maeda, the traditional sword design and alloy for katana blade, The chinese and calligraphy painting, the zen garden mastering, all about the Harmony of beauty forged over time by the constant research of essential perfection.
Can we roughly shorten it like that?

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The wagasa is a perfect example of both complexity and simplicity.i really enjoyed this post and learned also thanks for sharing

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